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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 11:43

I was looking through DrB's site for a specific item when I came across thus illustration from 'Commodore'. It would appear that Biggles is smoking a pipe! Comments, anyone?

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Postby Inactive User 171 » 04 Apr 2014, 11:46

Yes I have seen that illustration and I hate it :evil:
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Postby kylie_koyote » 04 Apr 2014, 11:53

Yes I have remarked on the pipe as well! It's very odd. I love that they're so nattily dressed for hanging out at home on a rainy day.
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Postby Kismet » 04 Apr 2014, 11:57

Is that a box of drawing pins, matches or cigarettes on the table?
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Postby OzBiggles1963 » 04 Apr 2014, 11:59

Fairblue wrote:I was looking through DrB's site for a specific item when I came across thus illustration from 'Commodore'. It would appear that Biggles is smoking a pipe! Comments, anyone? http://www.biggles.info/Details/12/Illustrations/


Extraordinary! I had completely forgotten this one, perhaps he was going through his 'Sherlock Holmes' phase? :D
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Postby Inactive User 171 » 04 Apr 2014, 12:00

Good question - it is hard to tell but Biggles would not need cigarettes if he was smoking a pipe ;)
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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 12:04

kylie_koyote wrote:Yes I have remarked on the pipe as well! It's very odd. I love that they're so nattily dressed for hanging out at home on a rainy day.

Men always dressed like that even in the home. At a pinch they might have taken their jackets off but never when there were ladies present. My father-in-law was like that. But the thing that has me puzzled is who is the man wearing a monocle? Raymond had just left and It's pre-Bertie days. :?
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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 12:05

Jenny wrote:Good question - it is hard to tell but Biggles would not need cigarettes if he was smoking a pipe ;)

A packet of cigarettes. Too big to be drawing-pins or matches.
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Postby Inactive User 171 » 04 Apr 2014, 12:08

I am not sure it is a monocle - just a very badly drawn eye.
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Re: Biggles, Air Commodore - Illustrations

Postby OzBiggles1963 » 04 Apr 2014, 12:14

Jenny wrote:I am not sure it is a monocle - just a very badly drawn eye.


Yes, I agree, looks like the right eye is closed & the left eye is open! Hmm. :crazy:
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Postby SaintedAunt » 04 Apr 2014, 12:54

The person standing is Algy, I think. Too old for Ginger. Not only is Biggles smoking a pipe (maybe the illustrator had met WEJ who did smoke a pipe) Biggles looks too heavily built for someone who is slim, finely cut features, etc. A dreadful picture - but then most of them are.
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Postby Inactive User 171 » 04 Apr 2014, 12:56

A lot of the illustrations take no account of Ginger being a teenager in the interwar books - he is very rarely slighter or shorter than the others.
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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 13:22

OzBiggles1963 wrote:
Jenny wrote:I am not sure it is a monocle - just a very badly drawn eye.


Yes, I agree, looks like the right eye is closed & the left eye is open! Hmm. :crazy:

Ok, I'll go along with that.
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Postby AusterAutocrat » 04 Apr 2014, 13:23

OzBiggles1963 wrote:
Jenny wrote:I am not sure it is a monocle - just a very badly drawn eye.


Yes, I agree, looks like the right eye is closed & the left eye is open! Hmm. :crazy:


He's winking at the map, obviously - like you do...
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Postby kylie_koyote » 04 Apr 2014, 13:26

I think the little item on the table at Ginger's elbow is a small book.
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Postby Kismet » 04 Apr 2014, 14:01

kylie_koyote wrote:I think the little item on the table at Ginger's elbow is a small book.


Not his cigarettes?
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Postby kylie_koyote » 04 Apr 2014, 14:02

Kismet wrote:
kylie_koyote wrote:I think the little item on the table at Ginger's elbow is a small book.


Not his cigarettes?


Could be. I zoomed in to 500% and it looks like a book to me. But it might be a packet of cigarettes.
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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 14:05

I zoomed in too, and it looks like a packet of cigarettes. In those days cigarettes were usually packed 10 across and two deep as opposed to the five across, deeper packs of later tears.
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Postby Inactive User 171 » 04 Apr 2014, 14:08

I must say it looks like a packet of cigarettes but in that case why is Biggles smoking a pipe?
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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 14:13

Could be Algy's.
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Postby Kismet » 04 Apr 2014, 14:23

I am now rocking back and forward in my chair squinting at a much magnified picture and trying to decide what a small object is. Sometimes I wonder at my life.

The middle line in the bottom rectangle of our mystery object is slightly curved rather than straight which suggests a tray to me or something less rigid than a book, and there is a shadow to the right suggesting the top of the object is slightly larger than the middle which is book-like.

I shall carry on squinting at it and comparing it to a variety of things as my brain comes up with them.
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Postby kylie_koyote » 04 Apr 2014, 14:28

Kismet wrote: Sometimes I wonder at my life.


Same here.
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Postby Inactive User 171 » 04 Apr 2014, 14:34

I am wondering about my life at the moment too - my husband has had his operation cancelled and a new date set for 29th April. This very frustrating because he will probably have to have his catheter changed for just a week or so which will be rather unpleasant.
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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 14:38

Kismet wrote:I am now rocking back and forward in my chair squinting at a much magnified picture and trying to decide what a small object is. Sometimes I wonder at my life.

The middle line in the bottom rectangle of our mystery object is slightly curved rather than straight which suggests a tray to me or something less rigid than a book, and there is a shadow to the right suggesting the top of the object is slightly larger than the middle which is book-like.

I shall carry on squinting at it and comparing it to a variety of things as my brain comes up with them.

What have I started! It could be a squashed cigarette packet. :athink:
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Postby Fairblue » 04 Apr 2014, 14:39

Jenny wrote:I am wondering about my life at the moment too - my husband has had his operation cancelled and a new date set for 29th April. This very frustrating because he will probably have to have his catheter changed for just a week or so which will be rather unpleasant.

I'm sorry to hear that, Jenny. It's bad for everyone, but especially he patient who will have been 'psyching' themselves up for the op,
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Postby Kismet » 04 Apr 2014, 14:43

Fairblue wrote:
Jenny wrote:I am wondering about my life at the moment too - my husband has had his operation cancelled and a new date set for 29th April. This very frustrating because he will probably have to have his catheter changed for just a week or so which will be rather unpleasant.

I'm sorry to hear that, Jenny. It's bad for everyone, but especially he patient who will have been 'psyching' themselves up for the op,


That's really bad news. It's not the sort of thing you want postponed.
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Postby Kismet » 04 Apr 2014, 14:45

Fairblue wrote:
Kismet wrote:I am now rocking back and forward in my chair squinting at a much magnified picture and trying to decide what a small object is. Sometimes I wonder at my life.

The middle line in the bottom rectangle of our mystery object is slightly curved rather than straight which suggests a tray to me or something less rigid than a book, and there is a shadow to the right suggesting the top of the object is slightly larger than the middle which is book-like.

I shall carry on squinting at it and comparing it to a variety of things as my brain comes up with them.

What have I started! It could be a squashed cigarette packet. :athink:


That was my first thought, but it's been opened a long way across the top if it's a soft packet: the cigarettes would fall out, and I can't see any trace of the top if it's a flip top, although I think it is too early for flip tops.
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Postby Inactive User 171 » 04 Apr 2014, 14:59

What are the things on the windowsill?
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Postby OzBiggles1963 » 04 Apr 2014, 15:07

Fairblue wrote:I zoomed in too, and it looks like a packet of cigarettes. In those days cigarettes were usually packed 10 across and two deep as opposed to the five across, deeper packs of later tears.


Yup, looks like cigarettes to me, i.e. a pack of 20's [long before we had packets of 50 etc].
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Postby kylie_koyote » 04 Apr 2014, 15:10

The object on the right is, I think, a flower vase. The one on the left has got me puzzled. It looks like a typewriter. Maybe it's a clock?
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