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Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 13:14

Yes I agree with that - I am sure his mother quite despaired of him when he was in his teens :lol:
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby AusterAutocrat » 13 Jun 2014, 13:23

SA, Soppy, come and help me! They're getting nasty... :sos:

Now you really can't say anything against Algy's appearance. Seen as how his hair is perfect anyway, its not being 'flat' makes no difference. His personality and his appearance go together. He isn't fussy about artificial things. Algy is no dandy; he's a tough one.

But he's also very nice. Algy does have charm and manners - you just need to notice them. He is loyal and thoughtful. AND he is the best looking chap imaginable.

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P.S. Imagine Steve's reaction when he returns to this thread about YABS... :arghijacked:
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‘Yes; he was in the Mess having his dinner when I came out. He said something about not letting stray Huns interfere with his meals.’
‘He wouldn’t,’ replied Biggles bitterly.
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Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 13:32

Well WEJ does not describe him as having charm and manners as such - he makes him far more light hearted in the earlier books. Biggles says he never could behave like a gentleman even in the Mess and he teases him about his table manners too. We are not being nasty about Algy at all just commenting on the way WEJ described him :lol:
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby AusterAutocrat » 13 Jun 2014, 14:10

Ok, ok :roll:

All I'm saying is that Algy is no pedantic softie... which is a good thing, riigghht? ( :roll: again)

And WEJ, as much as I respect him, missed out some important details ;)
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‘Yes; he was in the Mess having his dinner when I came out. He said something about not letting stray Huns interfere with his meals.’
‘He wouldn’t,’ replied Biggles bitterly.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 14:17

WEJ did miss out some very important details about all the team. I still want to know why crying women were "more Algy's thing" in Flies Again when it has never been mentioned before or since that Algy was a "ladies man". There are so few descriptions of the team that it is very hard to visualise them as they matured.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Fairblue » 13 Jun 2014, 14:28

Jenny wrote:WEJ did miss out some very important details about all the team. I still want to know why crying women were "more Algy's thing" in Flies Again when it has never been mentioned before or since that Algy was a "ladies man". There are so few descriptions of the team that it is very hard to visualise them as they matured.

WEJ wrote what was appropriate at the time for the story he had in mind. Whether or not Algy was a" ladies man" was not really pertinent to anything in the future involving Algy, so it was not afterwards mentioned. Also, he probably liked the reader to visualise the characters for themselves.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 14:31

Yes I am sure he did want us to visualise the characters ourselves - he definitely did not want us to know them from the illustrations as they are so different in every book and even in the same book the characters look completely different and they are dressed in different sometimes entirely inappropriate clothes. If Algy had been a "ladies man" or some such it would surely have cropped up in other books. As we have said before Biggles seemed to know absolutely nothing about wooing ladies and giving them compliments, flowers and presents - mind you the same could be said of most of the male population :?
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Fairblue » 13 Jun 2014, 14:36

Jenny wrote:Yes I am sure he did want us to visualise the characters ourselves - he definitely did not want us to know them from the illustrations as they are so different in every book and even in the same book the characters look completely different and they are dressed in different sometimes entirely inappropriate clothes. If Algy had been a "ladies man" or some such it would surely have cropped up in other books. As we have said before Biggles seemed to know absolutely nothing about wooing ladies and giving them compliments, flowers and presents - mind you the same could be said of most of the male population :?

I'm not sure how much input WEJ had over the illustrations or whether the publisher got involved. Maybe someone more knowledgable can enlighten me. I don't see why Algy might not have been a "ladies man" just because it didn't crop up in later books. The plot didn't call for it, that's all.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Kismet » 13 Jun 2014, 14:43

Computer say:
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Like this one Fairblue.

About giving someone flowers. Biggles' specific objection was that she had a garden full of flowers so why would you give more to her? Not why would you give someone flowers. City dweller (no garden) doesn't understand.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 14:44

Well we will never know what WEJ intended in that regard as it was never mentioned - perhaps he had a string of girlfriends and many sisters as the RPGs imply - he certainly had a life away from Biggles if he was a tennis champion before the War and Biggles knew nothing about it so it is quite possible that he had girlfriends when he was playing tennis in the South Of France. My only problem with these ideas is that WEJ usually gave the impression that Biggles and Algy were business partners and best friends who lived together and spent most of their time together. WEJ certainly gave Algy a very different life away from Biggles in one book.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 14:47

I was not going to mention that strange phrase Kismet - it has me totally baffled.

As far as flowers are concerned I do not think Biggles quite understood the idea of giving a lady flowers at all. Ginger probably thought it was appropriate to give girls coal from the mines.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 14:48

Thinking about it in a mining village in the 1930s something practical like that wold mean a lot more than flowers ;)
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Fairblue » 13 Jun 2014, 14:51

Jenny wrote:I was not going to mention that strange phrase Kismet - it has me totally baffled.

Hmmph! It is corrected now and I thought I'd done it before anyone spotted it!
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 14:54

It is very difficult if you get interrupted when you are trying to post. Talking of illustrations and descriptions there are a lot of illustrations in the Just William books which are very good but sometimes William is described as dark and at others he has carroty hair which begs the question of what colour was Ginger's hair in the books?
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Kismet » 13 Jun 2014, 14:58

Jenny wrote:I was not going to mention that strange phrase Kismet - it has me totally baffled.

As far as flowers are concerned I do not think Biggles quite understood the idea of giving a lady flowers at all. Ginger probably thought it was appropriate to give girls coal from the mines.


You've got me thinking now Jenny.

Biggles has good manners and we've discussed on previous threads how men can have theoretical knowledge of what to do in certain situations, if not practical knowledge, due to their upbringing (standing when a lady enters the room, raising their hat etc).

It was (still is) good manners to give your host or hostess a gift for inviting you to a dinner party or having you to stay overnight and flowers are an acceptable gift for a hostess. This is general etiquette, not something esoteric.

I think Biggles would have knowledge of certain circumstances when it would be acceptable to give flowers, even if he had never done so.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 15:02

Yes that is a very good point Kismet. He would certainly know about standing up when a woman enters the room and raising his hat to a lady - I hope he taught Ginger too as I am sure that sort of thing did not arise in Smettleworth. There is another old tradition of courtesy - standing still and removing your hat when a hearse goes by which my husband still observes and as we live in the next road to a Crematorium we see quite a few funerals going past.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Kismet » 13 Jun 2014, 15:07

Opening doors for a lady, buying the drinks in mixed company, carrying things for a lady.

I'm rather glad I live now.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby kylie_koyote » 13 Jun 2014, 15:09

In the story about the emeralds being smuggled in with chewing gum, Biggles again admits his ignorance in matters of buying things for girlfriends. I think he says "Not having any girlfriends, I wouldn't know" or something.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby kylie_koyote » 13 Jun 2014, 15:12

Kismet wrote:Opening doors for a lady, buying the drinks in mixed company, carrying things for a lady.

I'm rather glad I live now.


Although, the other day, I was struggling through with child and groceries and had my hands very full and I had to ask for the man standing idly by the door and playing on his iPhone if he would open the door for me. He seemed quite shocked. :evil:
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Kismet » 13 Jun 2014, 15:17

That's bad manners. I like that it is now good manners for anyone to open a door for someone that needs it, not gender specific door opening.
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Postby AusterAutocrat » 13 Jun 2014, 15:17

kylie_koyote wrote:
Kismet wrote:Opening doors for a lady, buying the drinks in mixed company, carrying things for a lady.

I'm rather glad I live now.


Although, the other day, I was struggling through with child and groceries and had my hands very full and I had to ask for the man standing idly by the door and playing on his iPhone if he would open the door for me. He seemed quite shocked. :evil:


That's terrible, but it's a sad normality :(
Men no longer give way for women and children on crowded trains. I've often stood up on fairly long journeys with plenty of chaps sitting down :nono:

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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 13 Jun 2014, 15:39

Back to topic. I have just looked at the YABS site and as always they have & Co. as one of their top ten.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby tiffinata » 14 Jun 2014, 07:23

Jenny wrote: There is another old tradition of courtesy - standing still and removing your hat when a hearse goes by which my husband still observes and as we live in the next road to a Crematorium we see quite a few funerals going past.


I worked at a crematorium for a while. The old fellows taught us that this HAD to be done. We had a list each morning so we knew when someone was arriving and could choose to make ourselves scarce (management's preference) or stand with hat off and head bowed if we were in the area.

We sometimes walk around to get takeaway from the local Chinese place. There is one person who is there who slams the door in my face when I am struggling with the pram. Unfortunately he is the owner and an arrogant *****. I have asked him a couple of times asking him why he was so rude. Won't get through to him because I have been told he doesn't speak English.
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Postby OzBiggles1963 » 14 Jun 2014, 08:25

AusterAutocrat wrote:...That's terrible, but it's a sad normality :(
Men no longer give way for women and children on crowded trains. I've often stood up on fairly long journeys with plenty of chaps sitting down :nono:
(That's just my experience. Perhaps I've missed the point...)


I very rarely catch public transport these days into our city [but used to 30 yrs ago when I worked there] & recently Mrs OzB & I caught a bus in to our Performing Arts Centre to see a concert or theatre show [I think it was the Rocky Horror stage show re-vamp...pun intended. ;) :whipgirrl: ]. It had been many yrs since I was on a bus, & on the way home about 10.30pm I got the shock of my life when 2 young foreign students offered their seats to both of us.

I wasn't shocked because they offered the seats [a nice gesture], but the fact that they thought we were middle-aged, infirm or 'elderly'... :o :shock: :evil:
Ok, so maybe we were the only ones who got on the bus who were over 30 AND who did not have iPod 'thingies' in their ears. :sigh2:
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Fairblue » 14 Jun 2014, 08:28

OzBiggles1963 wrote:Ok, so maybe we were the only ones who got on the bus who were over 30 AND who did not have iPod 'thingies' in their ears. :sigh2:

That would be the giveaway OzB. :lol:
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby von Zoyton » 16 Jun 2014, 21:17

isambard wrote:YABS administrator here

:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

DrBiggles - Biggles.info
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby AusterAutocrat » 16 Jun 2014, 22:15

von Zoyton wrote:
isambard wrote:YABS administrator here

:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

DrBiggles - Biggles.info
James - Biggles Online
now Steve - YABS

We are not worthy!


Sorry, it needs a little something...

von Zoyton, SopwithCamel and the crew - Biggles Forum


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Now THAT's a fine list! We are so so fortunate to have all these lovely Bigglesy places to go :D

(Btw, does YABS Steve - 'isambard' - have two accounts now, or is it a different 'SteveB' who's just registered...?)
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Inactive User 171 » 17 Jun 2014, 07:59

I think it is a different person but I am not sure.
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Re: Yet Another Biggles Site (YABS)

Postby Fairblue » 18 Apr 2018, 12:29

Found this link which gives a list of the aircraft used in the Biggles books

http://biggles.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Aircraft
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